Welcome back to DEAD Time. The purpose of this column is to inform and entertain, when possible, but also to hopefully get you to open your mind to new possibilities about the world around you. So, this month I reached out to someone who has been investigating the UFO phenomenon for many years, as well as talking to government officials about what they might know about the phenomenon.
Tom DeLonge is the co-founder, co-lead vocalist, and guitarist of the rock band blink-182. He is also an author and UFO researcher. In 2014, Tom founded To The Stars, an award-winning entertainment company that creates original content based on their knowledgeable experiences with prestigious government agencies and academic institutions told via film, television, and merchandise, hoping to open people’s minds up to new ideas.
In 2017, Tom and academic researcher Peter Levenda co-authored the book Sekret Machines: Gods, the first book in the trilogy Sekret Machines: Gods, Man & War, an investigation series that draws on the input of scientists, military officials, and intelligence officers to explore the UFO phenomenon.
Sekret Machines: War is the third volume in the non-fiction trilogy Gods, Man & War, co-authored by Tom DeLonge and Peter Levenda, and is an academic companion to the sci-fi series, all of which are currently in development with Legendary TV. War will be released September 17, 2024, and is available for pre-order on Amazon now.
Bloody Disgusting was thrilled to have the opportunity to talk with Tom DeLonge about the UFO phenomenon, the release of Sekret Machines: War, and a lot more.
Bloody Disgusting: What first sparked your interest in the paranormal and UFOs?
Tom DeLonge: I think when I was a kid, I was bored, like every other kid was and I was stuck at home all day during these hot summers. So, I just got really into my imagination. My brother and I would dream up that there was something bigger than being stuck at home when it was a hundred degrees outside. I started to think a little bit outside the box about what the purpose of life really was, and it occurred to me that I could probably dig in and read about this stuff, I could probably get some research about this stuff. It led me into many facets of the paranormal and UFOs, but what it really did was open my mind up to nature really is and what the universe might potentially be.
BD: What inspired you to start writing the Sekret Machines books?
TD: I studied UFOs for a really long time. I was putting a lot of puzzle pieces together over the past thirty years of what UFOs are and what we’re doing about them and what they are doing to humanity and how they have affected not only human beings and their cultures, but also the way we interact with each other. So, I felt that the biggest way to kind of communicate some of these things to people would be through the arts, because you can cram a lot more information in, and hit people emotionally, with these things through art way much more so than trying to get someone to take a college course on it [laughs]. You can watch a documentary and learn a lot more from a documentary than you can taking a class in school for months on end.
BD: You’ve applied science and religion to the phenomenon in the Sekret Machines book series. What are your thoughts on the interdimensional hypothesis as a possible explanation for UFOs?
TD: I think it’s an absolute. I think what we’re dealing with is that the universe is kind of like the mind of God, if you will, and all things that could be happening past, present, and future are happening simultaneously, kind of like that movie Everything Everywhere All at Once. It’s all happening and the only separation through all these events are the frequencies with which we vibrate as humans, or the matter that is all around us. But if we were to change the vibration of ourselves—say we built a craft that could change the frequency with massive amounts of energy, we could probably tune in to different types of frequencies in different timelines, like a radio station back in the day when we would tune in to different radio stations in our cars.
So, I think what we’re dealing with are life forms that are traversing timelines through the use of artificial frequency variation and also biologically might be able to traverse timelines without a craft, just through their consciousness. So, I think that’s kind of like when you get into more of the paranormal stuff, what are all these things that we see that go bump in the night. I think it’s things that are bleeding through the frequencies.
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BD: Let’s talk about the new book Sekret Machines: War. How did you first reach out to military and intelligence leaders who had security clearances and might be at risk talking to you, and why don’t you think we’ve had disclosure of some kind?
TD: I was able to go through various people that I knew, and then kind of flying by the seat of my pants, pitching ways to communicate some of these things, but I didn’t really get into the UFO subject until I met them, made friends with them, and they kind of trusted me. I also knew that there were a lot of rules around this stuff where I couldn’t ask them about classified programs. I didn’t go into those areas, so I made them feel comfortable being around me. My whole goal was to basically get a group of people together that could sit at one table and all bounce ideas off each other. I was pretty aware that I don’t think too many people in the government really knew the entire big picture. I think we’re dealing with something that’s very, very complicated. But I definitely knew they knew a lot more than I did [laughs]. So, my main goal was to make friendships and earn trust and then to actually execute on the things and I ideas that I have.
I have a working theory that I’m not a hundred percent on just yet about why there hasn’t been disclosure. What I’m leaning towards is that there is a unique law of physics where free will matters and what you think creates reality. Consciousness is a force that flows through the human being, and it is then created into physical matter. So, your body, your mind, your entire being is a transducer of its environment. You’re taking an energy wave and turning it into a particle. So, you have to believe something, see something, think something for it to be there and that’s quantum physics. And if everyone knew that UFOs are real, that might make it a hell of a lot easier for that force to come through. Maybe that could be a reason at the end of the day that you don’t want everyone to know about it, you know [laughs]? The worst-case scenario is that we all believe in an evil and that evil can manifest. I’m not even saying that all UFOs are evil, but I am definitely saying a lot of them are, and not in the normal type of evil, but more in different and after its own interests, and that could be very harmful to human beings and what we are trying to achieve in this physical reality.
BD: That actually gives me a lot to think about.
TD: That’s the goal! The simple answer to why it’s not disclosed as well is that it’s all wrapped up with very high stakes technology that we have, and so does Russia, and so does China. And our worst fear is to initiate a conflict with either that we can’t win because they might have back engineered something better than us. Also, we have the UFO phenomenon that we poorly understand, and we have adversaries here on earth that we don’t fully trust. So, there’s a lot to deal with with this enigma.
BD: You founded To the Stars in 2014. Can you tell me a little bit about why you started the company?
TD: I was very much wanting to create original intellectual property, original sci-fi stories that were rooted in and grounded in informed science fiction using real things to make people understand that nature and the reality around us is a lot wilder than you suspect, and UFOs were one part of that. My goal is to constantly get people to imagine a little bit bigger than their daily lives and just being on their phones each day, because the world and the universe do not work the way we think it does. It is something completely different and we think we know what it is because we can measure things in front of us in certain ways, but it’s just not reality.
Reality has to do with consciousness and metaphysics attached to normal physics, but we never could measure that stuff, so we always just said it was religious. But we’re coming up to a timeframe where we’re starting to realize that things like ESP, telekinesis, telepathy, ghosts, things that go bump in the night, UFOs, frequencies of time, consciousness, meditation, it all actually is part of one huge, swimming universe of nature—the mind of God, basically. So, I’m hoping for my movies and books I’m doing will start to get people to realize that, but through stories that kind of make them want to come sit down and watch it because it’s fun, but walking away going, “Whoa, that was interesting.” That’s my goal.
BD: I know you’ve seen Hellier and I’m a big fan of the show.
TD: I am, too!
BD: What are your thoughts on synchronicities?
TD: I think synchronicities are kind of echoes of consciousness. I think that it takes a human, an observer, to imprint physical matter on the matrix. So, everything is just an energy wave until a human brain imprints that energy wave into a thought and that thoughtform creates a physical object. If you’re thinking about something and it’s keeping you up at night and you’re obsessing about it, it’s going to start to appear in front of you, it’s going to start to manifest, because that’s just how reality works. But when you have a group of people doing that, it’s going to start manifesting all over the place. What gets tricky is, are there forces of intelligence that are trying to do that for you, to trick you to think of something or trying to reach out and grab you to start being paranoid about something so that you manifest things that scare you even more, and eventually they get something out of it. So, I think there is something to that line of thinking.
You can find all of Tom DeLonge’s books, media, and much more by visiting To the Stars.
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